Friday, June 17, 2011
Goldfoot/Goldfus dna Origins Upgraded: Q1b1 or Q -L245
Nadene Goldfoot
Our Q1b1 status is in shorthand, called Q - L245. This group came from parts of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and possibly southern Saudi Arabia. Iraq is the location of Ur, where Abraham and Sarah came from. They left, seeking their own land that would become free of idol worship with Abraham's leadership.
The Q line did come from Siberia, Mongolia and parts of Turkey in the Atlai Mountains. Our line, a more recent branch off the main one, has not been found in Siberia and Mongolia. It is Q3 that became the native Americans who migrated down into North America.
Before I jump to the conclusion that Ur could be the site of our origins, Ur was an ancient Babylonian city and housed Abraham before he and his family left for Haran. He was living among the Canaanites and the Philistines. His father, who came with him, was Terah and he was the father of Isaac by Sarah and of Ishmael by his concubine, Hagar, the Egyptian. His last residence was in Hebron.
He lived at the beginning of the 2nd millennium BCE. Modern excavations in the ruins by Sir Leonard Woolley have revealed a highly-civilized nature of the city in Abraham's time as well as evidence of an extensive flood at an earlier date. Our line comes from an ancestor of much more modern times, less than 1,000 years.
Looking at a globe, I can trace a path from Ur in Iraq or Babylonia and go directly West to Canaan, or today's Israel. It is very close by. Israel is right on the Mediterannean Sea and would be the crossroads of the world with access to water, which would have been a great draw or reason to remain. Of course from Canaan, one had access to Egypt, which is what happened with Abraham's family later on.
Our Goldfus family was from Lithuania, mainly Telsiai. How and why Jews first reached Lithuania is a matter of informed hypothesis to be found possibly through dna analysis along with archaelogy, but historian Abraham Eliyahu Harkavi said that they came from Babylonia and elsewhere in the Near East in the 9th and 10th centuries CE. We may have come from Ur, and if we had found our way to Judea, which was originally Canaan, we were then taken back as slaves to Babylonia, most likely. From there we joined up with other Jews to traverse to Lithuania at least by the 10th century or perhaps a little later, knowing there already was a Jewish settlement there. A lot of this hypothesis depends on the date of when our Q-L245 was determined to have happened, and that I don't know.
According to Behar et al. 5% of Ashkenazi males belong to haplogroup Q This has subsequently been found to be entirely the Q-M378 subclade and may be restricted to Q-L245.
Abraham's Family Tree
0. Noah of the Flood
1. Japheth
1. Ham
1. Shem
2. Arpachshad---after the flood
3. Shelah
4. Eber
5. Peleg
6. Reu
7. Serug
8. Nahor
9. Terah b: Ur, d: Haran
10. Abram-Abraham
c: Hagar
11. Ishmael
m. Sarai-Sahar
11. Isaac
10. Nahor
m. Milcah, daughter of Haran
10. Haran b:Ur, d: Ur --Hebrew settlement found here
11. Lot
Abraham and Sarah went to Haran after living in Ur. Haran was a trading town of NW Mesopotamia: and was also a center of a moon cult. Iraq was formerly called Mesopotamia. It was conquered by Arabs in 637 ACE. Jews actually had helped them because they were trying to free themselves from Sassanid persecution. Shortly after that happened, Jews had been expelled from Arabia and they seettled in Kufa. This area continued for centuries to be the center of Jewish life.
Resource: Rebekah Adele , leader in H and Q1b haplogroups from familytreedna
The Tanach, Stone Edition, Genesis 10:26-11:24
The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia
The Jews of Lithuania: A History of a Remarkable Community 1916-1945 by Masha Greenbaum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_Q_(Y-DNA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o6X2465EeM on Turkic Homeland 14,000BC-12,000AD
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=2HiUMlOz4UQ&vq=large-BBC on Human Planet
6/20/11 Comment from Prof. Krupa of Ashina Royal Dynasty Group in answer to my query: Q1b1 (OR L-245) IS OF KHAZAR ORIGIN AND EVOLVED FROM Q1B (WHICH IS SOME 2300 YEARS OLD AND FROM SIBERIAN XIOGNU EMPIRE) SOME 1000-1100 YEARS AGO..
AFTER THE "BLACK DEATH" WE HAVE BRANCHING IN MORE SIGNIFICANT PROPORTION; 500 YEARS AGO. MY FAMILY BRANCHED SOME 200-150 YEARS AGO ETC..
BABYLONIAN LEVITS GET MARRIED DAUGHTERS TO ASHINA ROYAL KHAZARS.
VLADIMIR GURIANOV INDEPENDENTLY CONFIRMED ALL OF MY RESEARCH WHICH I HAVE REVEALED IN 2007
6/21/11: from Prof. Krupa:
1) In 1346 the plague was brought in Crimea, and in 1351 in Poland and Russia. Later, in Russia there were outbreaks of plague in 1603, 1654, 1738-1740 and 1769. (Russian Wikipedia)
2) The plague repeatedly returned to haunt Europe and the Mediterranean throughout the 14th to 17th centuries.[54] According to Biraben, plague was present somewhere in Europe in every year between 1346 and 1671.[55] The Second Pandemic was particularly widespread in the following years: 1360–1363; 1374; 1400; 1438–1439; 1456–1457; 1464–1466; 1481–1485; 1500–1503; 1518–1531; 1544–1548; 1563–1566; 1573–1588; 1596–1599; 1602–1611; 1623–1640; 1644–1654; and 1664–1667. (English Wikipedia).
Our Q1b1 status is in shorthand, called Q - L245. This group came from parts of Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and possibly southern Saudi Arabia. Iraq is the location of Ur, where Abraham and Sarah came from. They left, seeking their own land that would become free of idol worship with Abraham's leadership.
The Q line did come from Siberia, Mongolia and parts of Turkey in the Atlai Mountains. Our line, a more recent branch off the main one, has not been found in Siberia and Mongolia. It is Q3 that became the native Americans who migrated down into North America.
Before I jump to the conclusion that Ur could be the site of our origins, Ur was an ancient Babylonian city and housed Abraham before he and his family left for Haran. He was living among the Canaanites and the Philistines. His father, who came with him, was Terah and he was the father of Isaac by Sarah and of Ishmael by his concubine, Hagar, the Egyptian. His last residence was in Hebron.
He lived at the beginning of the 2nd millennium BCE. Modern excavations in the ruins by Sir Leonard Woolley have revealed a highly-civilized nature of the city in Abraham's time as well as evidence of an extensive flood at an earlier date. Our line comes from an ancestor of much more modern times, less than 1,000 years.
Looking at a globe, I can trace a path from Ur in Iraq or Babylonia and go directly West to Canaan, or today's Israel. It is very close by. Israel is right on the Mediterannean Sea and would be the crossroads of the world with access to water, which would have been a great draw or reason to remain. Of course from Canaan, one had access to Egypt, which is what happened with Abraham's family later on.
Our Goldfus family was from Lithuania, mainly Telsiai. How and why Jews first reached Lithuania is a matter of informed hypothesis to be found possibly through dna analysis along with archaelogy, but historian Abraham Eliyahu Harkavi said that they came from Babylonia and elsewhere in the Near East in the 9th and 10th centuries CE. We may have come from Ur, and if we had found our way to Judea, which was originally Canaan, we were then taken back as slaves to Babylonia, most likely. From there we joined up with other Jews to traverse to Lithuania at least by the 10th century or perhaps a little later, knowing there already was a Jewish settlement there. A lot of this hypothesis depends on the date of when our Q-L245 was determined to have happened, and that I don't know.
According to Behar et al. 5% of Ashkenazi males belong to haplogroup Q This has subsequently been found to be entirely the Q-M378 subclade and may be restricted to Q-L245.
Abraham's Family Tree
0. Noah of the Flood
1. Japheth
1. Ham
1. Shem
2. Arpachshad---after the flood
3. Shelah
4. Eber
5. Peleg
6. Reu
7. Serug
8. Nahor
9. Terah b: Ur, d: Haran
10. Abram-Abraham
c: Hagar
11. Ishmael
m. Sarai-Sahar
11. Isaac
10. Nahor
m. Milcah, daughter of Haran
10. Haran b:Ur, d: Ur --Hebrew settlement found here
11. Lot
Abraham and Sarah went to Haran after living in Ur. Haran was a trading town of NW Mesopotamia: and was also a center of a moon cult. Iraq was formerly called Mesopotamia. It was conquered by Arabs in 637 ACE. Jews actually had helped them because they were trying to free themselves from Sassanid persecution. Shortly after that happened, Jews had been expelled from Arabia and they seettled in Kufa. This area continued for centuries to be the center of Jewish life.
Resource: Rebekah Adele , leader in H and Q1b haplogroups from familytreedna
The Tanach, Stone Edition, Genesis 10:26-11:24
The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia
The Jews of Lithuania: A History of a Remarkable Community 1916-1945 by Masha Greenbaum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_Q_(Y-DNA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o6X2465EeM on Turkic Homeland 14,000BC-12,000AD
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=2HiUMlOz4UQ&vq=large-BBC on Human Planet
6/20/11 Comment from Prof. Krupa of Ashina Royal Dynasty Group in answer to my query: Q1b1 (OR L-245) IS OF KHAZAR ORIGIN AND EVOLVED FROM Q1B (WHICH IS SOME 2300 YEARS OLD AND FROM SIBERIAN XIOGNU EMPIRE) SOME 1000-1100 YEARS AGO..
AFTER THE "BLACK DEATH" WE HAVE BRANCHING IN MORE SIGNIFICANT PROPORTION; 500 YEARS AGO. MY FAMILY BRANCHED SOME 200-150 YEARS AGO ETC..
BABYLONIAN LEVITS GET MARRIED DAUGHTERS TO ASHINA ROYAL KHAZARS.
VLADIMIR GURIANOV INDEPENDENTLY CONFIRMED ALL OF MY RESEARCH WHICH I HAVE REVEALED IN 2007
6/21/11: from Prof. Krupa:
1) In 1346 the plague was brought in Crimea, and in 1351 in Poland and Russia. Later, in Russia there were outbreaks of plague in 1603, 1654, 1738-1740 and 1769. (Russian Wikipedia)
2) The plague repeatedly returned to haunt Europe and the Mediterranean throughout the 14th to 17th centuries.[54] According to Biraben, plague was present somewhere in Europe in every year between 1346 and 1671.[55] The Second Pandemic was particularly widespread in the following years: 1360–1363; 1374; 1400; 1438–1439; 1456–1457; 1464–1466; 1481–1485; 1500–1503; 1518–1531; 1544–1548; 1563–1566; 1573–1588; 1596–1599; 1602–1611; 1623–1640; 1644–1654; and 1664–1667. (English Wikipedia).
Labels: Goldfoot/Goldfus, Q1b1 upgrade
